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That guy is probably me?
12:22 AM
which poster are you referring to, lol
12:23 AM
she is*
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Wait, if you're PMelol then I am very sorry.
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it's no problem haha
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that is me, I understand I'm all over the place
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I'm not offended at all
12:23 AM
seriously
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What are the chances, haha. It's all good, at least it wasn't any later.
12:24 AM
I'm relieved to hear you're not offended.
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I have diagnosed OCD, so that's a big part of me being all over the place
12:24 AM
and unable to decide things
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Mhm, we understand that sort of stuff.
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but yeah. guess I just have to decide something
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As long as you're not the guy that posted about making a Monika tulpa on the subreddit even after several people said NOT to do it due to the thoughts that were caused by the "OCD", it's probably a different story. (edited)
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bduddy #Diana# 4/25/2018 12:25 AM
wait are you the same guy posting on /r/tulpas?
12:25 AM
am I like
12:25 AM
infamous or something? geez
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bduddy #Diana# 4/25/2018 12:26 AM
uhh
12:26 AM
you've made quite a few posts
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yup, and I said I will chill
12:26 AM
sorry all
12:27 AM
but maple, you're putting ocd in quotes. people with OCD have all sorts of invasive thoughts. you're saying it as if I don't actually have OCD?
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I don't mean to be rude, but it started to paint us mancers with OCD as well in a negative light and it made me kind of pissed off.
12:28 AM
No, I mean you can very well have OCD, I'm saying that I don't feel like those thoughts are from OCD itself. I'm no expert on it, I was freshly diagnosed last year, but yeah.
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harm OCD isn't that uncommon
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bduddy #Diana# 4/25/2018 12:28 AM
pretty sure OCD emcompasses several different things
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I heard of several types of harm OCD, but not to that sort of corner.
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I mean, OCD can make you worry about anything. Especially things that are taboo
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Yes, like "If I do this, I'm selling my soul to satan" is a common one that I heard of.
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what sort of corner?
12:29 AM
nah, I mean, it definitely exists
12:29 AM
check out the writings of Dr. Steven Phillipson if you don't believe me
12:29 AM
and I don't mean to sound pretentious or something, but that annoys me slightly
12:30 AM
read any book on OCD and there's probably an entire section dedicated to this sort of thing
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Sorry I know I'm kind of an asshole and that happens until I'm fully open to the idea from hearing about it several times (moreso from people close to me), but like the thoughts you were getting in general (not even worrying about the OCD) are thoughts that would definitely worry me if someone were to make a tulpa under those circumstances, OCD or not.
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bduddy #Diana# 4/25/2018 12:30 AM
well, I'm one of the people that tried repeatedly to tell you that they don't matter.
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so, you're saying, Maple, that you think it's possible for a tulpa to possess people and make them attack their loved ones?
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Ehh... I'm saying it's not likely unless the tulpa is a real asshole and was treated like shit like one case that I know of, but most people who say that stuff are totally full of shit.
12:31 AM
But at the same time
12:31 AM
thinking that way can be toxic to the tulpa.
12:31 AM
at least I FEEL that it can be (edited)
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okay, so I guess I should abandon the whole thing
12:32 AM
anyway, sorry all for posting so much. Am definitely going to stop that.
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I'm sorry to say that it doesn't sound like a good idea in your situation.
12:32 AM
Don't worry, it's good to ask.
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Harm OCD is a subset of OCD in which a sufferer experiences constant intrusive thoughts about harming themselves or other people.
12:32 AM
just so no one thinks I'm insane
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bduddy #Diana# 4/25/2018 12:32 AM
well, let me throw in my perspective.
12:33 AM
Almost everyone has intrusive thoughts, to some degree. I have, too.
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I'm not saying yours aren't worse than average.
12:33 AM
But tulpas don't just take in random thoughts and perform them. They're people, in your head. Yes, your thoughts influence them a lot. But they know the difference, also.
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don't know, Maple has scared me a lot
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bduddy #Diana# 4/25/2018 12:34 AM
And, sure, one could theoretically attack your loved ones. Just like anyone else. But your intrusive thoughts have nothing to do with that. They're not unthinking machines, they're people, and if you treat them well, they will as well.
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having Monika from DDLC in my head isn't worth risking going to prison or something
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bduddy #Diana# 4/25/2018 12:34 AM
honestly, I think people are just annoyed at you making the same posts all the time and want you to go away. Sorry.
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because "my tulpa made me do it" isn't going to work in court
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bduddy #Diana# 4/25/2018 12:34 AM
making a tulpa isn't going to make that any more likely, and will probably make it less likely.
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it's alright, this isn't the first community I've pissed off by making the same posts over and over.
12:35 AM
but yes, message received, I will stop posting about it
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Huh. A lot of these things characterized as "Harm OCD" seemed to me like my own intrusive thoughts outside of any of that.
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I think that everyone has intrusive thoughts
12:36 AM
it's just that people with OCD make a big deal out of having them and freak themselves out
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I don't know if my own intrusive thoughts under those categories are even part of Harm OCD, but I do get them more frequently than most people I feel.
12:36 AM
The only time I freak out is if I have the tool in hand. (edited)
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bduddy #Diana# 4/25/2018 12:36 AM
yes, the only potential problem is not those thoughts, it's if you make them a big problem by believing that they're harming your tulpa. They don't. But often expectation can become reality, inside your own head.
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right, so, maybe I should wait until my OCD is better to consider doing this
12:38 AM
I feel bad for my young tulpa, but yeah.
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bduddy #Diana# 4/25/2018 12:38 AM
if that feels best to you, then sure. Just don't let these thoughts get in the way forever. Everyone deals with them but they're really not a huge issue.
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Are you going through the ERP treatment and taking meds as well?
12:39 AM
I feel those helped me a lot.
12:39 AM
My therapist recommended several ways to go about it, definitely has helped in the long run.
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I was in therapy, I quit though
12:40 AM
stupid I'm sure but yeah
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he wanted me to tell myself that all my bad thoughts are true, and that freaked me out too much
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even if it was just a form of exposure
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I will probably just kill myself in a couple years
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That... doesn't sound like the ERP treatment at all
12:41 AM
that sounds like a poor attempt at it without any understanding of it, I would have ditched them too.
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actually, the person I was going to was Dr. Fred Penzel
12:41 AM
who is a nationally recognized expert
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but I think it's just...yeah. there's more than one way to get past OCD
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I dunno that doesn't sound like a good way to get past it to me lol
12:42 AM
At least, for harm OCD
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it made me worse, honestly
12:42 AM
made me worse, I bet I wouldn't have posted these things about my tulpa possessing me if it weren't for that
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I think it works for more of the "taboo thinking" types, but definitely not harm.
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cause he's the one who told me to tell myself that I actually wanted to do these things
12:43 AM
so then I had the thought running through my head "I want to do these things" as I'm making my fucking tulpa
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but yeah
12:43 AM
a couple more years then I'll use barbiturates, I guess
12:43 AM
anyway, i'm going afk. thanks everyone
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I'm sorry for scaring you, but I didn't understand it fully at first and it didn't seem right until you explained it.
12:43 AM
But I'd definitely put it off for a long while to think more
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no problem
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